The Barack Obama regime is making submission of public comments more difficult than normal relating to the BATFE’s proposal to arbitrarily designate M-855 and SS-109 5.56mm ammunition as armor piercing and thereby make it illegal to import, manufacture, or sell this popular style of ammunition for America’s favorite rifle, the AR-15.

You MUST put your name and address on any submitted comments sent by email, fax or U.S. Postal mail.  Failure to do so will result in exclusion of your comments from consideration.

Furthermore, the BATFE (and really big parties and fires) has traditionally put a form on the Internet to submit comments.  Not on this one though.  Seems they are making it more difficult for people to reply (reducing the chairborne ranger keyboard commandos’ comments) while at the same time, making it easy for people who do reply to make a simple misstep that will invalidate their efforts.

Here’s what our friends at the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) put out on their Facebook page.  Comments will be accepted until March 16th.  Make this your quick and dirty action item for the day to promote gun rights!  It’s easy and painless.


Action item..

It’s time to contact the BATFE on their plan to ban M855 (AKA “SS109” or “green tip”) 5.56x45mm ammunition.

The excuse the BATFE is using to ban the ammo is that it is “armor piercing” based on what the bullet is made of (some steel and a lot of lead) and the fact that it can now be shot in a handgun that is not a single shot (the AR-15 handgun). They are claiming that this ban is needed to protect the police. A total fabrication – I’ve not heard of a single officer being harmed by M855.

One key point is that M855 doesn’t meet the BATFE’s own definition of “armor piercing” based on their own definition! The key component is lead, which isn’t one of the ammunition components the BATFE lists for armor piercing ammunition. Basing the ban on the fact that someone is marketing a handgun that can shoot that round is ludicrous.


One way to stop the ban from happening is if we can FLOOD the BATFE with comments opposing the ban. BATFE appears to be purposely trying to discourage such comments by not putting the proposed regulation on the web the way most regulations are set up. The proposed regulation’s comment submission method is somewhat hidden.

We have to either email, snail mail, or call in our comments. You may use any of those methods, but not more than one method and the method chosen can only be used to send a single comment.

BATFE must receive our comments NO LATER THAN March 16th. The sooner, the better.

Here are the three ways to contact the BATFE with your opposition:


Fax: (202) 648-9741

Denise Brown
Mailstop 6N-602
Office of Regulatory Affairs
Enforcement Programs and Services
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
99 New York Avenue, NE
Washington, DC 20226
ATTN: AP Ammo Comments

Suggested subject:

I oppose reclassifying M855 ammunition as armor piercing!


Suggested comment:

I oppose reclassifying M855 ammunition as “armor piercing.”

Because of the high lead-content of its bullet, M855 does not meet the BATFE’s own definition of armor piercing ammunition.

M855 is accurate ammunition that has been used for sporting purposes for many years. Nothing, including new handguns that are capable of shooting M855 ammunition, changes that fact.

Finally, the recent rulings by the United States Supreme Court that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms, by necessity also protects an individual’s right to have ammunition designed for use with those arms.

11 thoughts on “ACTION ITEM: ATF playing games with M855 proposal comments”
  1. Done! I fear that a great many submitted comments will be invalidated with the “only one comment rule”. I could fill a page, and one comment seems to be not enough – but we have to play in their sandbox!

    So then we meed lots of concerned people to make “only one comment”, once, to make this work.

  2. This is ripe for legal action.
    The law says “…(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; …“. [emphasis added]
    M855 is NOT composed entirely of any of the materials listed.
    Another case of reinterpeting the letter of the law for a specific political purpose, but pretty open & shut if brought before a true judge (not a political activist sitting behind the bench in robes).
    I’d suggest Texas again, but NRA, GOA, etc need to start the legal footwork.
    Comment emailed to BATFE.

  3. I think it is time to contact our representatives and call for an disband of the ATF in total. The agency are over and over again showing that they are not there anymore for protecting law abiding citizens. On the contrary they are trying their best to make every one of us criminals.

  4. If I were any more paranoid i would say this was also an attempt at building a soft database of gun owners.

  5. I recently read somewhere that our founding fathers gave us the ability to bring elected officials up on grand jury charges, outside of their impeachment proceedings. It was meant for WE THE PEOPLE to put corrupt pieces of crap in their place. We can strike down the foid card crap, and go after Barry Dunham Soetoro (Obama is an allias not its real name) oh I read about it over on Oathekeepers in the comment section. Please let me know what you guys think

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