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A FINE QUESTION: Are “NO GUNS” Malls Safe? Two Muslim terror attacks in week at malls with NO GUNS policies

September 25, 2016


Are America's malls with "NO GUNS" policies safe for you and your kids and grandkids to visit? 

That's a great question, given a pair of Muslim terror attacks a week apart at malls that shared policies and/or signage that prohibits law-abiding good guys from carrying guns on their premises.


First, on September 17th, a Muslim radical with ties to ISIS went on a stabbing rampage at the Crossroads Mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota.  His rampage came to a stop thanks to a good guy with a gun who ignored the mall's policies against guns and put three volleys of into the terrorist to save countless lives.


Then, less than a week later, a Turkish Muslim immigrant set on his own rampage in Washington State mall posted with "NO GUNS" signs.  The Cascade Mall in Burlington, WA featured signage prohibiting good guys lawfully carrying guns.  The mall management likes to brag on their "professional security services" that were nowhere to be found while the attacker committed his attack. 

24-hour Professional Security Services:
Cascade Mall is committed to providing our guests with a safe, and secure shopping environment by providing 24-hour professional security services.

To enhance your safety, Cascade Mall has uniformed Security Officers patrolling the interior and exterior of the Mall. Guests are encouraged to contact a Security Officer for any questions, concerns, or if in need of assistance (i.e. jump starts, safety/security escorts.) We also offer courtesy escort service to help carry packages or accompany you to your vehicle. To contact an officer, please call 360-757-2080.

Unlike the Minnesota attack, there were no good guys who ignored the mall's prohibition on lawfully-carried guns by good guys to stop the attack.

In fact, the terrorist managed to escape in the confusion, but was apprehended the next day.

ctkrkflwaaaye3sThe little Muslim might have been atoning for his sinful lifestyle during his terror attack.  He was a prohibited person when it came to gun ownership (yet had pictures on social media like the above), had a DUI, multiple arrests for domestic violence, and "friends" said they kicked him out of their place when they learned of him slinging dope and using his own "product".

The Seattle Times reports:

The suspect, identified as [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted], was arrested Saturday evening as he walked along a street in Oak Harbor. [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] will be turned over to the Skagit County Sheriff’s Office, according to Island County authorities.

 [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] was identified as a suspect from tips and after police examined surveillance video from the Burlington mall and saw a car connected to him, Mount Vernon Police Department Lt. Chris Cammock said during a news conference late Saturday night. Skagit County authorities alerted the Island County Sheriff’s Office, which arrested [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] around 6:30 p.m., he said.
Cammock said [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] has not been charged. He will be booked into the Skagit County Jail, he said.

He is expected to appear in Skagit County District Court on Monday.

Skagit County court records show [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] has a criminal record that included three domestic-violence assault charges in both Burlington and Island County, with the victim identified as [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted]’s stepfather. He also was arrested for drunken driving.

Island County District Court recrds show that [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] was told by a judge on Dec. 29 that he was not to possess a firearm.

. . . .  A couple years ago, Marty Baldwin said he allowed the suspected gunman, who was homeless at the time, to move in with him and his wife. But Baldwin kicked him out a few months later after learning the younger man was using and selling drugs, he said

Baldwin said he called 911 Friday night after recognizing the man he knew as “Frankie” on TV.

. . . . Police said the suspect appeared to be a Hispanic male in his late teens to mid-20s with a close-shaved haircut. He used a long gun similar to a hunting rifle, Francis said.

However, according to the [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted]’s father’s Facebook page, [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted] was born in Turkey. His father met and married [scumbag terrorist’s name redacted]’s mother in Turkey and the family settled in Oak Harbor, according to the Facebook page.

Cammock said he is a legal permanent resident of the U.S.

Prudent Americans should ask themselves if patronizing gun-free shopping malls is a wise and prudent move in today's world.

10 Responses to A FINE QUESTION: Are “NO GUNS” Malls Safe? Two Muslim terror attacks in week at malls with NO GUNS policies

  1. Dragan on September 25, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    Muslum a religion of peace when will Americans learn! 

  2. explainist on September 25, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    Ok, lets get something straight: Islam is unmistakably a religion of peace. no doubt about that. but…

    They have their own definition of peace. Peace, to a Muslim, is the peace you get from submiting completely to the will of Allah. If you have not submitted completely to the will of Allah, you got Jihad coming. Submit to Allah and get peace or I kill you.

    Peace does not mean you do your thing over there and I do my thing over here and we get along. Peace means you live your life my way, and I dictate how you do that.

    The peace of Islam comes from submitting to the will of another and absolving yourself of responsibility for your own life. The peace of opping out on life.

    • Matt on September 27, 2016 at 9:32 am

      "Peace does not mean you do your thing over there and I do my thing over here and we get along. Peace means you live your life my way, and I dictate how you do that."

      Exactly! This is the exact opposite of Christians, who are completely "live and let live." They never oppose other people from doing their own thing. For example, when two people of the same sex want to marry, Christians go out of their way to change laws to allow them to do so! They also willingly bake cakes for them!

      Oh… wait…

      Religious extremism, regardless of which flavor of beleif, is a problem. Especially when the hardcore adherents try to impose their beleifs on others.

      As for the malls, if they ban carry (and the ban is backed by the force of law), then avoid them. Strange that malls, which isn't exactly a growth industry anymore, are willing to exclude potential customers in an era where internet shopping is a thing.

      • 1 With A Bullet on September 27, 2016 at 10:08 am

        No cake = religious extremism = murdering infidels?

  3. Robert Ewers on September 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    when we stop being killed!

    Until then, Go forth and Carry.

  4. Jackie vant on September 25, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    go in the mall doors that are not posted  no gun zone

  5. Gipper's Ghost on September 25, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    God thing those security officers are uniformed, otherwise they wouldn't be able to scare the terrorists away.

  6. duh duh on September 25, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Muslimes have a 4th Century Religion of PIECES.

    Two other words with their "religion" is planet extinction.

  7. You know who on September 26, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    We'll look on the bright side but at least there weren't any cops there to kill dozens of innocent bystanders. Have you seen the fake photos that the cops are circulating of mr. Scott's murder? Yeah they they had to throw down Colt Mustang pistol with an ankle holster. Magically it shows up in the cops photos but only in the bystanders photos it does not. Where did that magic gun come from? Just another crooked cop murderer. Miss me yet Circle jerkers? Banhammer my ass!

  8. Dan Sullivan on September 28, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    Every one at those two malls should sue, their lives were put in jeopardy by managment.  Hit them in the wallet, things will change.